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Bad Moon Rising (Terrible Weather Events & Eclipses)
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Throughout our history, there have been terrible weather events that have impacted history, and solar eclipses have had a special place as well, as frightening and unexpected events. In this episode, we'll discuss a few of these events.
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Marissa:If you'll recall, there was a 2017 full solar eclipse, I was seeing for most portions of North America. And it was pretty awesome. It's certainly not the first one that this planet has seen. And it's not likely to be the last. The next full solar eclipse is scheduled for April of 2024. So we have to make sure that we actually have those Eclipse sunglasses, this time that we're the hot commodity of the season. But before we knew the reasons for them, the science behind it, a solar or even lunar eclipse could be a scary and unexpected thing, sometimes seen as ominous. Join us to be at another entry into this hour Macabrepedia.
Matthew:Hello, and welcome to Macabrepedia a marriage of true crime and the truly bizarre we are your host, Matthew and Marissa. And today's entry is brought in the lead by Marisa yay, the return of our great and wonders storyteller. And we're talking about eclipses.
Marissa:We're talking about different weather events that were important through history. And it was a little bit of inspired by the hurricane that just hit Florida. Eclipses aren't weather. No, I know that. But I decided to roll that into this because it made me think about the 2017 solar eclipse and just saw a show that was that had an eclipse as a major plot point that took place during the Tudor era. So it's like one.
Matthew:Yeah, the the Eclipse was from our vantage point in South Carolina, or I was in North Carolina at the time, but it's pretty, pretty cool to see. I mean, I had a really I was I was out on a run at that time. So I had a pretty cool vantage point of that. But it was really cool
Marissa:hat or whatever that is in North Carolina or South Carolina,
Matthew:North Carolina. But it was how it reacted to the like how it made the shadows like crescents all, through the trees and stuff. It was really cool to see that because I was like why why is that? But it was it was it was an interesting thing. And they were handing out those glasses at the Welcome Center at that was that
Marissa:they were very hard to get right in the few days before. Like you couldn't order on Amazon unless you wanted to pay hundreds of dollars for a pair of these classes. Oh, it was it was pretty well, yeah. But I was at work. Luckily, somebody I worked with did have one. So we just kind of passed it back and forth. So we were all able to look at it during the time that you know, it's happening, which was cool.
Matthew:Yeah, it was wild. And there was people who were like, taken, like plane rides to be able to watch it from like the perfect vantage point. So boathouse cool, wild times, but the I mean, the if you think about what that would look like, in the, in the the age, ages gone by where suddenly all the shadows change shape. And the sky becomes dark in the middle of the day.
Marissa:Yes. You can certainly see how that would make you think something bad's gonna happen.
Matthew:Yeah. If you're a negative Nancy could see that as something really cool. I prefer the dark most of the time.
Marissa:Yeah. Well, the dark during the day, though. Yeah. I mean, it's still a thing to you. I mean, as recently as 2010. During the basically a partial eclipse, out of fear people would stay home, or people on the streets, many restaurants and hotels saw a dip in their business because this many customers prefer not to eat during the eclipse for whatever reason, and most schools no reason whatsoever. Yeah. And a lot of schools closed when the students didn't show up for it.
Matthew:Really? Yeah, in 2010 10.
Marissa:I mean, it still happens. We know the science behind it. But you know, still,
Matthew:I mean, in the US, called schools are closing,
Marissa:and nice 95 and Cambodia instead of like screaming and just instead of like, things that you might think people would do, soldiers actually shot into the air to scare the mythic dragon from the sky. Interest, not sure how serious they were. This is 95. But yeah, it was reported that the only scattered casualties were from the bullets.
Matthew:Yeah, like the bullets were hitting people looking back
Marissa:down. Smart. For you, and night Did anyone in California astronomers were kind of surprised by the weeping and wailing of the hotel staff who were surprised by the just sudden onset of darkness. I mean, this is not something that is so far back in the past. Yeah, we don't have you know?
Matthew:Well, I mean, they don't it doesn't happen very frequently. So I mean, I guess if you're not in the know, and you don't know that it's about to happen, particularly if you're, yeah, if you're particularly leaning towards a superstitious tradition or religion, you know, all of a sudden is like, oh, shit, it's the apocalypse. I knew it. I knew it.
Marissa:I mean, pregnant women are still sometimes worn to stay inside during an eclipse. What? Not eat not carry sharp objects and not eat cooked food from prior to the Eclipse happening.
Matthew:Don't eat pre Eclipse food. Okay, strange. I'll keep that in mind.
Marissa:They actually, the the baby superstitions assemblies. This actually dates back to the Aztecs. So the baby superstitions. Yeah, if you're pregnant lady.
Matthew:What the effect would be on your babies. Those babies with their superstition?
Marissa:Yeah. Well, the Aztecs believed that a celestial Beast was biting the sun. And they thought that the same thing could possibly happen to the baby. If the pregnant mother watch the eclipse
Matthew:that a celestial creature might eat its beat the baby?
Marissa:Well, yeah, bite it. These things do happen. That doesn't happen. But you know, people, people are scared of it. So or happened traditionally, in the past. I mean, there'd been a lot of eclipses that have really, you know, impacted history in various ways. If you go back to 413 BC, there was an eclipse during the Second Battle of Syracuse. This is the Athenians, they were trying to sell home. And during that time, there was a lunar eclipse, and nice theists, who was a particularly superstitious man on their side, asked the priests what you should do. And they suggested that the Athenians wait for another 27 days, and nice as agreed, because he's like, sure, you know, this eclipse happened. Absolutely. I believe you completely. This year acusense took advantage of this and 76 of their ships attacked 86 Athenian ships that were actually in the harbor for again, this 27 to 27 more days, they probably wouldn't have been there. If they hadn't stayed. The Athenians were defeated. And Athenian leader urine urine madonn was killed.
Matthew:All because because of this eclipse. Well, yeah, that again, that's a you know, it's another one of those errors, air eras where, you know, you believe that everything that happens has a sign from the gods.
Marissa:Absolutely. And another one was, so we've talked about William the Conqueror just a little bit. His son was Henry, the first of England when his son died on 1133 ad. Some sources say it was the same day but most of them actually say the same year for sure. There was a solar eclipse that lasted for four minutes and 38 seconds. Not sure how they got that exact, but that's that's what they say. This midday blocking out the sun caused a quote, hideous darkness to slip up on the fears of men. This was
Matthew:a guy who died from the lamprey
Marissa:was this guy.
Unknown:Okay, for sure.
Marissa:People wondered what sort of ill omen this was. And they suggested that something huge was going to happen. And then of course, they were right. The king died
Matthew:from from be from eating bad land
Marissa:prey. Clubs, right,
Matthew:though Yeah, that's one of the there was lamp arrays that were cooked the pre for the Eclipse and then it all the pieces just fall right into place. It writes itself.
Marissa:A few centuries later, another solar eclipse happened on March 16 1485. Okay, this one is actually the one that I was watching wasn't a major plot point, which is what I said earlier, but there was a plot point in the show I was watching which was the white princess. And okay, so what happened was spoilers, whatever is history. So in Neville, she died. She was the wife of Richard the Third, who was the last your king and he was also the last of the plantagenets. So again, the War of the Roses and all this happened and Edward was the king and and ever died. And then basically Richard took over put the princess in the tower, Richard became king.
Matthew:The princess in the tower is also a burden. McCobb story,
Marissa:very McCobb story. But anyway, Richard became king, actually, Richard the Third. I believe he's the one whose bones were found in a parking lot. Yeah, a few years like 2011 or something. Don't quote me on that. But they found his bones in a parking lot. They kind of knew where it would be because they had text the Senate where they were, they knew what used to be on that spot. So actually, they found that pretty quickly when they went into to start looking. But I thought that anyway, I'm sidetracked. But anyway,
Matthew:That's fine. It's my God. Yeah McCobb second,
Marissa:that's pretty cool. So, anyway, when the Eclipse happened This is right after Richard the third's wife died. And this encouraged encouraged Henry tutor his supporters, who saw this as a bad omen for the your guests. And this pushed them to move forward with their invasion plans. And then of course, Henry Tudor ended up killing Richard the Third. And Henry became the first tutor King. So he was Henry the Fifth, his son would or Henry the seventh and then his son would be Henry the eighth.
Matthew:Okay, yeah, can't get an episode without being brought in.
Marissa:Go way back. In 1302 BC, Chinese historians documented a totally eclipsed that blocked out the son of the heart. Oh, man, I should have stopped there, you should have put that in there at that moment.
Matthew:Comedy is all about timing. And I'm not going to edit that to make it funny.
Marissa:So for six minutes and 25 seconds, this eclipse happened because the sun was a symbol of the Emperor. and Eclipse was seen as a warning to the leader. And after the eclipse, the emperor would eat vegetarian meals only and perform rituals to rescue the sun. There's just a lot of superstition around it. This one is and then not
Matthew:to stop it not to interrupt too much. But it sounds like there's a plane that's about to crash. I don't know if if the microphones are picking it up. But it sounds like there's a plane just like whistling towards the ground or in. But anyways, go ahead. Sorry.
Marissa:So this one is less superstition, but still kind of cool. In 1919, there was an eclipse and the sun was vanished for six minutes and 51 seconds. scientists measured the bending of the light from the stars as they passed near the sun. And this actually helps confirm Einstein's theory of general relativity. Yes, it describes gravity as a warping of space time. That's all I've got on that. I can't get deeper into that.
Matthew:Not a Science Podcast. But I thought that was pretty cool. It's hardly a History podcast. I know. It's mostly mostly a cannibalism podcast
Marissa:turned into asthma. Probably not going to touch Jeffrey Dahmer though. New shows cool though anyway. But anyway, it this this did get inspired by this hurricane that just hit in you know in Florida and then it bounced down into the ocean and backup to the South Carolina coast.
Matthew:You know whether what would be what kind of a podcast we could do is we could just do reviews of of other True Crime TV shows. Just our opinions
Marissa:on it. That probably exists.
Matthew:I'm sure it exists. There's nothing that hasn't been done. Anyway, sorry. Ian smashed into Florida and and put my grandmother well crushed her carport and did some damage. They
Marissa:did a heck a lot of damage. I'm not sure if this has been confirmed. But it did say something about this the worst natural disaster in Florida's history. I think a lot of it's because of just being Florida. Yeah. Well, a lot of the people in the path of the destruction I think didn't have hurricane insurance. So I think that's gonna end up being a big problem. But
Matthew:anyway, which is nuts. Why would you live in Florida and not have well, I'm
Marissa:it doesn't normally hit there.
Matthew:It's still I mean, so come through the Gulf on occasion. I mean, that was the whole thing that flooded New Orleans. Anyways, sorry. Anyway, good.
Marissa:Because of this. I went down the weather and Eclipse. Sorry, rabbit hole. And so the deadliest hurricane in US history was in fact, Galveston, Texas. This was a 1900s. So September 8 1900. The it still stands as the deadliest natural disaster of any type in US history. Oh, wow. Yeah. It struck with little warning. The Weather Bureau not only incorrectly predicted the storm's path, but also didn't tell the people who live there that it was coming. This is 1900 it was it was obviously a long time ago. That might who knows what they knew even
Matthew:it is looking out looking out with their lights come in hand hand over their eyes kind of squinting into the distance go get the Farmers Almanac this this all this shit looks like it's gonna be bad. Also, my voice is cracking and stuff. It's cuz I was screaming quite a bit at that the jazz today that was not me. First day of the Renaissance fun of of Texas accents. That's just my voice cracking
Marissa:Yes, he's he's quite loud at the joust.
Matthew:Also not a podcast about the renaissance fair. Yeah,
Marissa:well, you know what? It's a it's a podcast about us. Dammit. Not really, but it was fun. Anyway. You want to know more about it reach out to us. All right, the Galveston Hurricane. The wind speeds actually are estimated to have been about 145 miles per hour. But it was the storm surge which climb To 15 feet. Wow, that caused the most devastation. Yeah, that's pretty high.
Matthew:What is 145 miles per hour? So category three.
Marissa:You know what I just saw this like last week when Andy was coming in it was 157
Matthew:kicked it to a category five. Right so it was category.
Marissa:Yeah. Even was like two miles per hour below what was supposed to be wanted the sevens? Yeah, so 140 fives probably so for me. Anyway, we're
Matthew:category three for whatever. But anyway, again,
Marissa:big hurricane. It caused a lot of devastation. At least 8000 people lost their lives in this hurricane. And the town was completely destroyed. Yeah.
Matthew:15 foot surge is is massive.
Marissa:Can you imagine that? Just like coming through the
Matthew:back can only imagine.
Marissa:Generally.
Matthew:Yep, that was the joke. No, wait time song joke.
Marissa:For man. That's that's more than twice as tall as you coming through the streets. That'd be so bad. Anyway, desk damage estimates that the monetary damage was about $30 million, which would actually be about $700 million today. Wow.
Matthew:That was even before. Okay, well,
Marissa:yeah, no. Crazy.
Matthew:That's a lot. That's a lot. That's a lot of buildings going getting crushed. Do we have a body count on that instead of?
Marissa:Wow, I know. I believe Galveston is an island off of Texas. So it's very look it up.
Matthew:I'm done. You can continue I will jump in as necessary as I find this information. Yeah, it's Galveston Island. And yeah, it looks like it's, it's it's one of those like, islands that kind of is like a barrier wall kind of island and it to a bay behind it. So it's got it you know, it's kind of like the Outer Banks of North Carolina and guess
Marissa:what was that city behind it?
Matthew:The city behind it? Yeah, there's the city. Santa Fe, Texas, Santa Fe.
Marissa:Okay. But um, yeah, that. That's gotta be just awful. Yeah. But we're gonna move away from hurricanes. Because this podcast today is a bit all over the place, truthfully. But it is all weather and clips this so this one will be about a drought. Oh, yeah, the great tutor drought. Because we always got to touch on the tutors once or twice Mercury times 1550 Britain and Europe's climate cooled significantly. This was this was a it's more obvious when you look at the fact that their glaciers actually grew a lot during this time. Up until the 19th century. So this is how much it cooled down to like the the ice kept crate being created. Immediately prior to this however, Britain and most of Europe actually had a really bad two year drought. And so 1540 to 4041 rainfall pretty much just completely stopped in February of 1540. March very warm April and May hot and dry. The spring saw pretty much all the water the all the rivers and lakes and all that dry up. And between February and September. They only had six rainfalls in London in London,
Matthew:which is known to be a yes stay a contempt. I don't know stereotypically but it's often thought of as like a very rainy area. Yeah.
Marissa:But then we had six rains. And that time. The terms shrank to such a massive extent that sea water flowed on the tide past London Bridge polluting the freshwater supply. No. Because of this, dysentery and cholera ran rampant and killed 1000s of people on the continent, Switzerland and France saw grapes winter by July harvests were lost all you know fruit and vegetables. They just rotted where they grew. Because they didn't get enough water so they just shriveled up
Matthew:through. And that's where we get raisins.
Marissa:As I how we get raises No. But water just vanished everywhere. Right? That's what's happening. Everything's drying up. One man actually said it was possible quote for a man dangle his legs and the great fissures that formed on empty beds. So that's how bad it was in Rome. Not a drop of rain fell for nine months. Wow. Yeah. The rain dried up and places the sun in Paris or ran dry.
Matthew:Is this part of the the worst year in history? In terms of the timeframe for that? No, it was not was not 536 Apparently from a quick Google search.
Marissa:But yeah, I mean, a lot of times in the past rain would would would this would happen in previous droughts, but then usually default come August or September rain would come, but this time it did not. So, not great. This also meant that, you know, water that people would drink, drip, you know, dried up and the crisis got really bad. Winter became still became really warm and didn't get cooler that winter. In Bavaria, people were people were swimming in Mountain Lakes to keep cool. So I mean, at least there's that water. But you know, in Mountain Lakes, which normally are frigid. A second hot, dry spring turned into a blistering summer again in 1541. It was so hot. In Britain, that forests began to die from drought. Yeah. parts of Europe suffered. That became almost deserts by 1541. And disease and hunger, you know, just ran rampant. parishes across the country prayed for rain, it did not come livestock died in the 1000s. And even the deepest wells became dry for months. I mean, hey, anything you were going to feed the animals was also become impossible to find. It was also hard to find stuff for your self even I mean, people died from starvation in some places, also, I mean, basically, but the next year and 1542 Guess what? It rained? widespread flooding. So you know, made up for lost time?
Matthew:Well, yeah, I mean, it well, it's like in like, in the desert and stuff like that when the rain comes through it floods because the ground is just not ready to
Marissa:run. The vegetation dries out. So I can't Yeah,
Matthew:yeah. Slides all around.
Marissa:A few centuries later. We get we go over to the US. And for people who don't know, you, the US has five great lakes. Hmm, yeah, sure. It's five anyway, the Great Lakes. They're in kind of the upper middle part of the country. Yeah. And they're very large.
Matthew:Yeah, they're, some would say great.
Marissa:They are great. They're so big, though. You can't see their side of it when you're on it, or most places. So these, they're sometimes called, quote inland seas, because of how big they are. They are prone to very severe storms sometimes because you know, the weather just gets crazy.
Matthew:We've touched on the Edmund Fitzgerald, which is Lake Superior.
Marissa:In 1868, and 1869, storms on these great lakes, sank or ran aground more than 3000 ships and killed more than 500 people,
Matthew:which is crazy when you think about it being a lake. Yeah, it's like, yeah, that's it.
Marissa:That's why I wanted to point out that this, these are huge. These are not your typical lakes. But yeah, they killed it. They killed a bunch people this happens pretty frequently that it gets storms. It's just that this these two years was just really particularly bad
Matthew:storms, a lot of storms. They they form real strong over over large bodies of water. And these are a bunch of large bodies of water that all kind of connected. Just like Ian, just like en except nowhere near Lake. Yeah,
Marissa:and different destruction. But after one of the worst of the storms, which was a four day storm in 1869. Americans realized that they needed to notify merchants about like future weather events that might happen. In those few days. 97 vessels suffered damage, okay, this is four days again, four days 97 ships suffered damage 35 or total losses that by some accounts exceeded 504 $120,000. At a time, I don't know what it'd be now. newspapers reported heavy snow, high winds broke telephone poles in Chicago, and made you know, rescue missions really difficult. On November 20, six men drown near Chicago trying to reach a schooner. The economic impact and loss of life during these two years actually made the president of the time which was Grant President Grant sign a law for storm signal service, which was actually the beginnings of the US Weather Service.
Matthew:Oh, that's cool. Yeah, I thought they were gonna say it made it illegal for storms to sink ships. Alright, start. We're done with this. This is bullshit.
Marissa:And so from then on the army, the army would record the weather at particular sites around the country. And then worn through telegraphing, when surface air pressure began to drop, which is a sign that storms gonna happen. So that's kind of cool. You know, not that people died, but that they that that came from it in 1836 there was the Lewis avalanche.
Matthew:A bunch of Lewis's
Marissa:avalanching down a mountain. Next one no. Okay, so, a severe cold spell basically happened in 1836 On Christmas Eve, a gale, which is obviously very windy. Lewis basically brought in one of the biggest snowstorms of the 19th century. With where are we snow drifts 10 to 40 feet deep in places the it's England. The London globe reported that not in the greatest memory of the oldest citizens Has there ever been such a stopping up of the malls of the males for so many days in London, which is now of the gravest concern in the minds of all commercial men?
Matthew:40 foot snowdrifts in London 10 to 40 up some deep snow
Marissa:that's a lot in Sussex in Sussex town of Lewis that's where we're at. drifts piled up along the chalk cliffs about the town the strong winds you know, kind of push it against there and make drifts always see the strong wind sculpted these just massive piles of snow like they are very heavy, huge piles of snow cannot say that enough after the blizzard they were still still there that blizzards over but snow still there. And in Britain snowfall usually melts in heavy rain or bright sunshine
Matthew:as pretty much works that way just in Britain
Marissa:however this stuff was too heavy to melt away that quickly because you know if you pile snow in a big pile it makes it way harder for it to mature
Matthew:when it's like when after a snow and you see it plowed up on the
Marissa:parking lot Yeah. And so December 27 December sorry
Matthew:that's that's the McCobb this comment dicembre
Marissa:we're gonna refer to every 12 month as dicembre dice walkers on these on snow actually noticed cracks appearing
Matthew:Yeah, this already sounds like it's pretty dumb idea to go. Hey, let's go walk on top of this. These huge piles of snow on top of these cliffs. Yeah, that'd be sweet.
Marissa:And you know as it warmed up, these cracks widened. One young man ran along the yard out alongside the houses below, trying to get people to evacuate because he saw something about to happen. All these people were mothers and young children who were reluctant to leave because they had nowhere else to go. And it's cold as December. Just got past Christmas. I don't want to go. Fearing the worst, this young man actually did flee on his own. And no sooner than he left. Guess what happened?
Matthew:The snow the snow fell down.
Marissa:Yes, a major avalanche occurred. Snow came down, bursting underneath the houses tossing the houses up. And before for more snow pushed them. Like from above, and like push the houses. It crushed every building and bury their occupants. And what I witnessed is described as a mound of pure white.
Matthew:Yeah, because it's no it's no
Marissa:rescuers tried to like free these women and children. There were 15 buried. But sadly eight of them were dead including one woman and all four of her children. This is the only avalanche that we actually know took place in lowland Britain. Oh, yeah. I mean, you know in Britain history and all that there could have been something wrong with me. But that is kind of cool. McCobb way 1816 was the year without a summer. So we had the very much drought heavy crazy summer to march summer. Yeah. And then 1816 year without a summer. So an 18 entire
Matthew:year or like for the entire world.
Marissa:In 1815, Mount Tambora erupt in Indonesia spewing a crap ton of volcanic dust into the ear.
Matthew:That is a very that's a very scientific.
Marissa:Correct, it is legit. It floated around the atmosphere causing a huge climate shift as these massive volcanic eruptions tech can do it crops failed. As for all struck even during the summer, in New England, Delaware farmers complained about the price of corn for their hogs so they couldn't get it. Lots of people left the Northeast because they were trying to find better prospects in the Midwest, which wasn't even that much better. American religious revivalists held meetings and formed new like churches basically they, they sectored off they made new sects. Sporadic Sunday worshipers renewed their faith. And in November voters replaced 70% of the House of Representatives basically this caused people to just
Matthew:know you're gonna vote vote the drought away or devote the the weather away vote the
Marissa:volcano away. Yeah, no, but I mean, think about it. It does kind of make people depressed really, if they don't get a summer I mean, if you don't see the sun and it's just a really so I hear Shut up it's like a really cold time. I mean, that's what happens when people who are in like the Arctic Circle and they don't see sun for months at a time they
Unknown:can replace or house of representatives know in the hopes of getting whatever
Marissa:No, but you know, I can imagine some of this was the you know, the religious part.
Matthew:But also people want to blame somebody for sure could have done more in this time of need, you know,
Marissa:and typhoid broke out in Ireland, starving families fled to America, making 18 1617 deleting, like years for famine related to migrations. This actually had a huge impact. Sure, poor nutrition contributed to the first worldwide cholera epidemic also. Then there was the great tempest. So 1702 is when this is happening, at the height of what became known as the War of the Spanish Succession succession, and so Britain's Navy was decimated by something kind of unexpected. Is you know, weather is often unexpected.
Matthew:I thought you're gonna say, Wales with swords? No, that
Marissa:would have been so much cooler though. No, so the greatest storm ever to strike the British Isles struck in 1703 November 26. To be 26. To be precise, my time does not want to work today.
Matthew:being precise with your numbers, but not with your words. Yeah.
Marissa:Geez. So winds were so powerful that approaching gusts sounded like deep booming thunder striking terror into the hearts of all who heard them. The wind was so powerful that it actually smashed up buildings, Chimneys, roofs, walls all blown down. It killed an injured householders throughout southern Britain. 1000s of buildings meanwhile, crumbled and collapse. Millions of trees came down. Lightning, rain, tornadoes, anything you can think of. It hit Britain, the southern portion of Britain. This is
Matthew:this is before you could call it a hurricane 1702 Hmm. That's why it's the great tempest.
Marissa:So a great storm surge swept up the what's called the Severn Estuary, with water, you know, pushing inland. This resulted in huge loss of property, livestock and human life also just killed. The bishop of Bath and wells and his wife were both killed in their beds by falling chimney. And then meanwhile, let's see, the downs area of the Kent coastline actually usually had a bunch of naval and commercial ships that were there. But as these winds came in, a vast swell, drove everything in its path onto the shore. And up to 1200 officers and crew lost their lives their one vessel was dragged hundreds of miles out into the North Sea, all the way to go. Thunberg
Matthew:You say that like, you know, Gotham Burg? That's where you know that is.
Marissa:Got the burgers in Sweden. Oh, it's pushed all the way to Sweden.
Matthew:That's crazy. Yeah, it is. I just I'm just surprised that you thought that I would just or let's put it out there to the audience. Just knowing that Goldenberg is in Sweden. I don't even know how to how to actually say the word or the whatever. You probably didn't that's kind of what we do here. We just assume that we're gonna we just English we just make everything. American English American English.
Marissa:Now we do often try but today. I don't know. I didn't look that one up. So yeah, it was just it was it was very bad. And basically, is the whole story. Yeah, yeah.
Matthew:I mean, German. That was the theme of most of the things you've brought up.
Marissa:A journalist at the time said no pin could Describe it nor Tong express it nor thought can see that unless by one and the extremity of it. You can't you don't understand unless you were there.
Matthew:No Yeah, that was I mean like just watching like the footage of the reporters out in in the winds in Florida when the hit this time it was just like sliding around like holding on to stuff and it's like yeah, that would be unbelievable. We weren't we were in a couple of tornadoes I had touchdown
Marissa:we were but we we didn't get that. Like the force of the wind. We were both inside. Yeah,
Matthew:we weren't standing outside the destruction that happened in the area we're I was because we were separate separate at the time. You were down the street in the basement of some. I was at a thrift shop. Yeah. And like I was I was in the house that we were staying at but it was we had you know, trees falling all over the place. Up rooted huge trees that still had like the mailboxes that were attached to the like, you know, just on a post in the dirt. But the tree and the mailbox both fell.
Marissa:Yes, I have to make sure that you are fine and posted. It was pretty it
Matthew:was pretty it was crazy to to walk through that. So yeah. When when is no joke?
Marissa:No, it's definitely not. I mean, it was really cool. I was like I saw you said I was in the basement of this. What was the basement of a church, the thrift shop was and so that when I looked outside and everything sort of going sideways with the wind, obviously and I was like, oh, okay, something we need to go. And the ladies who worked there, like took us all back to this, like boiler room. And while the tornado was passing by, it was so loud because the wind kept ripping through the rafters. And so yeah, it was it was quite intense.
Matthew:That was in Massachusetts. And it was like, the first time and ridiculous amount of years since the tornado ever touched. There's like three or five or something that touched down and like the three days or something that was that two or three. But yeah, it was like three I think it was three and like in like three days, but it was crazy. I was I was from my perspective, I was standing at the sink in the kitchen. And I was looking out the window in the back as the storm rolled through. And then all of a sudden just tree started just falling. And I was like, hey, hey everyone. She's getting bad out there and then all of a sudden the trees are falling on the house and stuff and people were freaking out. And of course I'm an idiot so I'm just like face pressed to the glass like wow, look
Unknown:at all this. It was a good week for the windows.
Matthew:It'll be okay. Don't do that at home kids. No darkened cover and I don't know get in the bathtub or in a door jamb or yeah, whatever. Well, that's that's for earthquakes, but it probably still works for tornadoes,
Marissa:interior Windows
Matthew:when you really get out because when earthquakes and you didn't touch on a single earthquake. No, I didn't. But when earthquakes and tornadoes and stuff happens, you know, whenever you see the footage, it's just a whole bunch of bathtubs and door door jams. No, it's not it pretty. That's pretty useless information with I'm pretty sure you're still just gonna get ripped right out of your house.
Marissa:Yeah, I mean, I'm just I'm just touching on a kind of a random assortment of these events that have impacted our history. But there are obviously so many more.
Matthew:Oh, yeah. So there's the big ones, you know, Vesuvius and shit like dinosaurs.
Marissa:And the Vesuvius one is super cool, but I figured out like, that's pretty well known. Yeah, people probably know more about that one. Yeah. But, ya know, it's pretty cool. And anyway, so those are a few of the major weather events and of course eclipses because I think they're cool. That have just been important to our history.
Matthew:I have a McCobb minute. Do you now I do. The Justin Schmidt sting pain index pain scale. This basically takes a bunch of a bunch of stinging insects. And this guy, Justin Schmidt, had them all sting him. And then he tried to describe it like someone would be trying to describe like wine, and then giving them a rating between zero and four. And so this guy throughout like the 80s, and then beyond, would just be stung by all these different types of insects. They're all like Hornets wasps, and like ants, and that kind of that family of creatures, but the pain level some of the examples like a pain level one would be the southern fire and the Western paper wasp, the urban digger bee, and most most bees fall into like the pain skin. Little ones have you ever been stung by a bee? Congratulations. It's a one on the scale. Then two is the Western honey bee, wasp. Other like yellow jackets and stuff. These are these are like pain scale too. But what what what what we need to get to that actually started me on this anyways was I started watching a bunch of YouTube videos on a Amazonian kind of, you know, coming of age kind of proving your manhood ritual is with the with the bullet ant. And what they do for with these answers, they take these ants and these answer big, they're like the size of a thumb. Yeah,
Marissa:they're a lot bigger than normal. Yeah, they're, they're
Matthew:very big ants. And then they weave them through like a bamboo or some kind of like Reed structure like latticework and they push all their all of their stinger bits through there. And then the the person going through the ritual, takes their hands and sticks them up into these gloves. And then they agitate the ants and the ants begin to sting the person. And they also while stinging, they also secrete a pheromone or whatever, that makes it so that all neighboring ants also go into this panic staying mode. So they just stink. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. So there's like hundreds of these ants in these in these gloves that you wear. It was wearing for a few minutes, I was like 10 minutes or something like that, to continue to ritual. And it's supposed to be like the most painful sting that you can get from an insect. There are there. There are videos out there where people say that the tarantula Wasp has a stronger sting, but those two are the only ones that are that are on the number four level. And I want to get stung by him so bad. Like so bad. I want to get stung by that. I just want to see what it's I want to put my hands and gloves.
Marissa:Why would you want
Matthew:because you because it's the most painful and sting that you could possibly have good. As long as it doesn't itch afterwards. It's the itchy bits that bothered pet sodomy. I don't mind the pain, like that's fine. And also when to Okay, I am fine with pain that doesn't also come packaged with debilitating After Effects. Like I don't mind the pain of having like something be like pinched really, really, really hard. Right? You get some bruising or whatever. But breaking a bone causes structural damage beyond just like, Oh, that hurts. It's like, oh, this doesn't function properly. I don't like that. I don't I don't like dealing with that kind of stuff. But if it's like non if I know that the pain is not lethal, and it's temporary and not actually causing long term damage. Give it to me all day. I want to need can pepper spray me? You can put bullet ants on me. I don't care. I'm all about that stuff was the most painful thing. Because Russia Patreon part. But what's what's the most painful experience physical experience that you've that you've had?
Marissa:I was gonna say I have no idea. But actually when I had an IUD. Oh, really? Yeah, I had a Paragard. And as a copper IUD, it's not hormonal. And so after I had that inserted for at least a couple of weeks, it was I had the worst cramps I ever had in my life. Like they were so bad. I couldn't move. So yeah, absolutely. That was that was the worst pain I've ever felt. I feel like that's probably what it feels like to give birth in some ways because I was like, I couldn't move it was so painful. Because it never given birth so I can't say but
Matthew:was was it barbed or something? No, it was just causing the cramping
Marissa:it was causing my uterus I guess to just Yeah, it was
Matthew:really bad to black.
Marissa:Now Yeah, I was gonna say I don't know but that was definitely
Matthew:I think my most painful experience was one time I was sledding down a hill and I turned to avoid be to slamming my face because I was laying on my stomach going headfirst down down you know, as you do down a steep embankment. And it was all ice on the top so you couldn't really turn or dig in or anything like that to get any purchase. So I was heading towards this tree and I turned and what it did was it slung my body sideways to hit it. Like I was going to take it like right in the ribs kind of a thing. So this dumb going towards this tree and I kind of like tried to do like the worm to like throw myself up so that I can To effectively will cartwheel around it, but I was a big fat kid. So instead, I just kind of kept my legs up a little bit. And then I took it right on the thigh. And it blasted it so hard and the whole thing cramped, unbelievably, and it was all swollen. And I thought for sure I broke my femur. That was one. And then the other one was the first time that I ever tried to run a really long distance in August. And I took a bunch of advice. So I, you got to make sure you tape your feet so that you know it doesn't you don't chafe when you run. But I didn't know how to you tell me to tape my feet. I just was winging it at that point. So I put a bunch of this medical tape all over my feet. And I was like, oh yeah, this is how this is what I'm gonna do. And then I ran. I was about 30 miles in at this point. And the pain of my feet was so excruciating, so that I sat down, and I was like, I have to try to take this tape off. So I sit on this curb on this road. And this was just me this wasn't in a race. This was just me by myself running down the street in August in North Carolina. And I sit down I take off my shoes and socks. And I grabbed the side of the of the tape and I had it taped like almost like like a tape sock on my foot. And I pull the tape off. And with it comes all of the skin and all of my toenails off of my foot. And then I then and it was just blinding pain. So I went to the other foot and did it again. Rip that went off to just as unceremoniously because at this point, I was way out of shape. I didn't This was before I was actually an ultra runner. So I tear that off. And then I ran another 20 miles on the on like my skinless toenail this feet. And it literally felt like I was just running with shoes made of fryer grease. Like it was just so funny. I couldn't do anything except for cry and laugh while I was running because it was just the stupidest fucking thing. And it hurts so bad that I was just like, what? Why? Why is it why am I doing this? Why am I still running in the wrong direction? I should be running to a hospital and I just continued on anyways. That was like the two most painful days. I've never had an IUD shoved into my wiener or anything like that to compare.
Marissa:Well, my Yeah, no, I had that thing removed pretty quickly because it was that bad. But yeah, yeah, that was terrible. Also, I did crush my toe at one point, but that was nowhere near
Matthew:Yeah. There's a there's I know that one of our future patrons had been hit by a car where he took a this is yes, I'm deliberately calling you out future patron that he got hit in the face with the sideview mirror of a car passing it like 35 miles and I was like, Man, that must have been frickin That must have hurt so bad. Yeah, anyways, oh, by him tell the story at some point. It's not my story to tell. But I always thought like I was like, that was the stone. But anyways, but he got busted in the face by that anyway. That was the McCobb minute the Justin Schmidt pain scale get bit by bugs. Describe it like an exquisite wine. And kind of like that. Yeah, it he puts in things like a searing pain similar to being a searing shocking pain that that trembles the the skin or something like that. It's It's It's It's funny the way that he notes of just Yeah, with a touch of wheat. I love it. But that'll do it for us today. Thank you as always for listening. You can reach out to us on Twitter and Facebook at Macabrepedia
Marissa:and on Instagram at Macabrepediapod. And of course you can always email us as macabrepediapod@gmail.com
Matthew:Thank you. As always, we appreciate all of you, listeners for tuning in. And next week we will be going back to murder. Most likely now we will we will definitely do. Murder. Yeah, I
Marissa:mean there's a couple that I've got. We're gonna
Matthew:people will die and we'll tell you the gory details next week. So join us as we add another entry into this our Macabrepedia