Macabrepedia: A Marriage of True Crime and the Truly Bizarre

Bloody Mary Patreon Episode

June 27, 2022 Matthew & Marissa Season 1 Episode 46
Macabrepedia: A Marriage of True Crime and the Truly Bizarre
Bloody Mary Patreon Episode
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Bloody Mary is a child's horror game, played in the dark while staring into your own dark and gleaming eyes... perfect for a sleepover. But it does have some messed-up origins. Join us for this episode that was originally uploaded to our Patreon. 

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Marissa:

Macabrepedia makes light of dark subject matter, but not so much this week, we the host of Macabrepedia feel like we need to kind of take a step back for a minute. It's been a rough week with a death in the family. And there are some professional things that we've been de prioritizing, that should really actually be a priority. We won't have a new episode this week or next week for the holiday, but we'll be back on July 11. In the meantime, please enjoy this episode that was previously released on our Patreon. As a reminder, you can join us there for just $5 a month and get extra content just like this episode. Please join us as we add this footnote entry into this hour Macabrepedia. This time with our daughters telling the origin of Bloody Mary

Unknown:

Macabrepedia makes light of dark subject matters and may not be suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. There are a variety of ways to summon Bloody Mary, you can summon Bloody Mary Well, in this case, she's called Hail Mary. And most versions you are supposed to go into a bathroom and turn off all the lights. The next thing you do is say Hail Mary seven times after the third time the mirror is supposed to go completely red. Then once you have reached the seventh, or the final Hail Mary, you are going to see an evil morphed blurry figure in the mirror. A lot of people will say it's bloody Mary, and others think it's Satan. Another way of summoning Bloody Mary is that you are supposed to go into a room with with a handheld mirror. And once again, it needs to be dark with a little source of light. Once you have done that, you begin to say Buddy was Bloody Mary's name 13 times each time you progressively get louder. So start with a whisper. As you begin to see the chant. You start to spin so slowly. When you have finished the chant, you should see her bloody Mary in the handheld mirror. There are a lot more ways to summon her. But these are just two examples. Just so you know. Just so you know, summoning her can have very serious consequences. So do this at your own risk. And whatever you do, don't break the mirror after summoning her.

Matthew:

Hello and welcome to Macabrepedia a marriage of true crime and the truly bizarre This is a special Patreon episode. And today we are not your hosts Matthew and Marissa.

Marissa:

No we are not today we're being replaced.

Matthew:

Oh man.

Marissa:

Now we are being joined in studio today by two very special guests Saiga and Alyssa and so I can Alyssa are my stepdaughters and Matt's daughters so they're going to treat you to some stories today. And so I think Psych is starting us out.

Matthew:

We're discussing today the origins of what was what is the urban legend often played? On slumber parties a staple of slumber parties all across at least this country where people are dared to go into bathrooms and say Bloody Mary into the darkness.

Marissa:

Bloody Mary I used to do when I was a kid. So this is still going strong.

Matthew:

And you are here to tell the tale. You must not have broken the mirror.

Marissa:

I survived. Let's let's learn a little bit more about it.

Matthew:

So there are a few origin stories to the Bloody Mary urban legend. And psych a you have a couple of these a couple of these stories. So before we get into that, tell us tell us a little bit about yourself that opening that opening was done by Alyssa Good job. Did a smashing cold open. Alyssa will tell us a little bit of tell us a little bit about yourself. Um, what do you do? What do you do?

Unknown:

I like skateboarding and gaming. That's quite literally my life. So Oh good.

Matthew:

Oh, that's that's fair. And cyca

Unknown:

um, I like reading manga watching anime and listening to BTS.

Matthew:

BTS being the Korean pop sensation. Yo. And Alyssa What's your game of choice right now? Are you still doing the fortnight or apex or what are you on at this point?

Unknown:

I am playing Apex more often and some of Minecraft. Oh, don't really touch fortnight anymore.

Matthew:

No, that's so that's and psych What are a couple of your favorite animes at the moment.

Unknown:

At the moment I am watching Attack on Titan and I think it's a really, really really good anime. And I think my second enemy of choice would be Hunter Hunter. Nice.

Marissa:

Um, watched either one of those.

Matthew:

I watched like the first season and a half of Attack on Titan

Marissa:

I've heard it was good though.

Matthew:

The animation is amazing. I have never played apex. I'm not really a first person shooter kind of person playing a lot of Minecraft. So okay, well with without taking any more time away from the story. First of all, I do want to thank all of our patrons for being patrons. And this is a little special thing that we've kind of figured, would again, kind of be just a fun, a fun little additive and osika. And Alyssa had just, we had we were we she they had just found out that we had a podcast as we were standing in line at the craft store, getting supplies to make them their own life slash death masks. And Alyssa had made a comment about crime junkies, the pot her true crime podcast of choice. And then they were talking about needing to find more more podcasts in that vein, and I said, Well, I have a suggestion for you. Have you heard of Macabrepedia? Of course they had not. So yeah, so then we got in, which is, you know, not advised for all audiences, but whatever. So now and then we've figured that we give them a little a little shot at the shot at the table and at the microphones and see what see what they come up with. So this is this is the topic that they decided to do, which is Bloody Mary. And so without any further ado, tell us cyca one of the origins of this bloody bloodiest of Mary's

Unknown:

All right, so back in the 1800s, there was a girl named Mary, the place where she lived had an illness, illness wash over the place, this illness was said to make people drop dead in a short period of time, physicians couldn't find a pulse. So they used a small mirror and put it under their nose of the dead. So they would see if there was any condensation coming from their noses. There were cases when a person seemed to have not have a pulse, but when they did the mirror trick, there was some condensation. So when the person was pronounced dead, they would put a small hole in the coffin and put a piece of string through the hole that was attached to a bell, the bell hung on a stick by the health homes of the deceased. And if they were to have waken up woken, they would just ring the bell and someone would come pick them up. Mary was one of the victims. She was bedridden, then slowly died and put in a coffin but not put into the ground just yet. But she still didn't wake up. Mary's parents friends began to say if she doesn't wake up now, she will never. One day the parents left the house and a friend buried Mary and went home. Mary woke up and started ringing the bell but nobody was there to hear it. And then her belt fell. And she began scratching at her coffin until her fingers bled. And she took her last breath. Mary's father noticed that the bell was yards away from their house, and they dug her up but she was dead. They put a mirror up to her nose, but she was long gone. They said her spirit is attached to the mirror and whoever calls Bloody Mary three times she would come and claw at her victims.

Matthew:

That's pretty gruesome. Yeah, very alive.

Marissa:

They tried to stop that was the bell but it did not work. That's just even worse.

Matthew:

Yeah, they. So a couple pieces, little, little, little tidbits to put into there. So it is common. It is common to do what's called a wake, you know, or an observance. Sometimes it would be called or something along those lines. And what that would do is you after the person had died, or been pronounced dead, they would have the body on display in the house. And people would come and say their final respects there or whatever. But it was also a time to just make sure that the person was actually dead. Before they were put into the ground and then the bell thing they would put a put a bell like a string around their finger so that if they woke up and started twitching at all, it would ring a bell above their grave and then they could dig it up. Which I don't actually know if that's actually I sent that folklore on its own.

Marissa:

I think it is but yeah, so interesting.

Matthew:

Yeah, I mean it'd be but but in that same thing though also, capturing people's souls in mirrors is a popular folklore as well. So during when the once a person has died within a house, it's tradition to go around the house and cover all reflected surfaces so that the Spirit can can escape the house because it's believed that Mears trapped souls that's kind of part of the through line with all of all of the Bloody Mary things but but there was in history, an actual Bloody Mary. And you have something on that tonight,

Unknown:

yo, I do. Alright, on February 18 1516, Mary was born. Her parents were expecting Mary to be a boy. When Mary was 18, her parents separated because Mary's father Henry the Eighth became obsessed with Anne Boleyn, which led to Mary's mother Catherine of Aragon, and her father Henry, the eighth divorcing, which led to him to break from the Catholic Church.

Marissa:

Oh, yeah. So like this was, this was Major. I mean, this is it still takes place a lot in pop culture. There's a lot of movies and stuff that are done about this. But Henry, he had six wives. He had, he did the little rhyme is divorced, beheaded, died, divorced, beheaded survived, because the first one he divorced the second one he beheaded you know, etc. So his first wife was Catherine of Aragon, who was married mother, Mary had like, five or six pregnancies and stillbirths that the miscarriages and stillbirths so she tried to give this on a king which was his whole thing he really Eric Assan because this is what he wanted. He wanted his son to carry on his life because as the king he wants someone to be the next king. And Mary was not quite good enough because she was a woman. So that's that's part of I think, Mary's bitterness when she grew up, but uh, yeah, so he, he got became obsessed with Amberlynn and Amberlynn partially but also Henry kind of wanted to do it anyway, handle and partially influenced him to create the Church of England. So they did break from the Catholic Church because the pope refused to give a divorce to Henry from Catherine Barragan. So that is the history of that. And then of course, later, Mary was raised Catholic. So that's a lot of what comes in later.

Matthew:

Right? Because her mother was Catholic, very much, very, very devout. So but yeah, he had to make his own, make his own church in order to make it so that you get an annulment? Yep.

Unknown:

All right, and 1536 after an Berlin's execution, Henry married James Seymour. Mary had three other stepmothers Mary's younger half brother, Edward the six takes the throne as a Protestant, Protestant reformer. Six years later, Edward passed away, Edward tried to change his father's wishes and tried leaving the crown to his Protestant cousin, Elaine Jane, Lady Jane Grey, Grey, excluding the ones next in line to receive the crown, married stayed in England and fought for what was rightfully hers. Mary gathered support from the nobles across the country and marched on London, Mary and her younger half sister Elizabeth had rode into England's Capitol together during during Mary's five year reign, she navigated through challenges, and she was the first queen to wear the crown in her own right without having be without being a wife of the king. Mary prioritize religion above all else, she aim to restoring the Catholic Church. ascendancy in England. She also ordered 280 Protestants burned at the stake as heretics.

Matthew:

Oh yeah, that's probably where the bloody part comes from. We were we were we were pretty bloodless up until up until this.

Unknown:

This is how she became known as Bloody Mary. Mary died at the age of 42 and 15 fit 58 by the cause. Have Purinton cancer uterine uterine cancer? And Elizabeth claim the throne since Mary failed to have a child of her own.

Marissa:

Yeah, I actually don't think she was bloodless before that because she executed her cousin Lady Jane Grey.

Matthew:

Oh, yeah, I was just talking about for this particular story, the whole the whole two door.

Marissa:

The whole thing's bloody

Matthew:

bloody Yeah, everybody's dying. We referenced a couple of Henry moments and some of our other episodes as

Marissa:

well. But yeah, and summary is pretty sad character, actually. I mean, she, you know, she she grew up the princess, the apple of her father's eye. And then her father decided that he wanted to marry someone else. And so that, I mean, think about it. If your parent decides they're going to divorce their you know, your other parent, but you'll never be able to see that parent ever against Mary was never able to see her mother ever again after this point. Like she's got to be sad. She's got to be sad. And then when she gets she becomes queen. She also tries to give birth and just doesn't work out for her. She had uterine cancer, she thought she was pregnant, but it ended up being a tumor. So that's rough. But be I mean, Elizabeth succeeded and Elizabeth was the Virgin Queen and she was on the throne for a very long time. So

Matthew:

Queen Elizabeth is one of the most famous English queens in history. She was Amberlynn Sutter. She's the one who you often see depicted with like the fiery red hair and the pale pale white skin, which was ultimately what kills her. But yeah, that was well done quick nice little research little bits is very good. Yeah. And then when maybe there'll be a couple of podcasters in the future. But yeah, and then I depending on on how the the upcoming episode pans out. They may be there for that as well because I know that Alyssa particularly spends a lot of time or at least used to spend a lot of time watching ghost stories and seances and some of her favorite YouTubers going into murder scenes. And you know trying to contact spirits in our next episode is on seances and spiritualism and all that interesting subject there. I may have actually referenced your I think it was in the Lizzie Borden episode. I think I referenced watching the SAM and Colby episode that you that Alyssa had watched. Guys don't have to be quite so quiet. You're just there. They're vigorously nodding. But not speaking into the microphone. But no, that was that was really good. Thank you for sharing those stories. And now we're all going to have a seance and then go into a dark room and try to summon summon Bloody Mary to tear out the eyes of our enemies.

Marissa:

So we may not be here for the next episode depending on how that goes.

Matthew:

But thank you as always for joining us on this Patreon episode. And join us for the real I guess real episode I don't know we never really ended like quite as we don't really do the whole whole shebang like we did for this one. But as always, thank you for listening and join us Mondays for another entry into this our Macabrepedia we're not all whispering

Marissa:

haha